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However, if it is significantly better, I would take the plunge and buy the Q850A now. My major activity is Netflix (\~30-40% Atmos content), Prime video, Youtube and sometimes Spotify. Do not have any game console but might buy it end of next year, not a priority.

 Fortunately, there are lots of sound customization features available, including a graphic EQ and presets.

Samsung HW-Q850A

I almost pulled the trigger on Sonos Arc, only holdback was price ($799) plus I would be locked into a Sonos subwoofer if I wanted to add it on later. Then I ran across a deal at Best Buy that swayed me to get a Samsung HW-Q850A 5.1.2 (basically the 800A with rear speakers bundled) for $749 with a $250 Best Buy gift card, so effectively $500

Criteria:
1) Dolby Atmos + DTS-X.
2) Min 3.1 channel.
3) Budget: Up to $700.
4) Will be on stand, not wall-mounted.
5) Mixed usage (streaming shows, movies, video gaming).

Additional information:
TV: LG C1 65", on stand (not wall mounted).

-Currently looking at LG SN8YG ($450) and SP8YA ($700). What is the difference between these two, besides year of manufacture? 

-Additional soundbar suggestions are welcome per criteria above.

<div class="md">Criteria:
1) Dolby Atmos + DTS-X.
2) Min 3.1 channel.
3) Budget: Up to $700.
4) Will be on stand, not wall-mounted.
5) Mixed usage (streaming shows, movies, video gaming).

Additional information:
TV: LG C1 65&quot;, on stand (not wall mounted).

-Currently looking at LG SN8YG ($450) and SP8YA ($700). What is the difference between these two, besides year of manufacture? 

-Additional soundbar suggestions are welcome per criteria above.
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Recommendations for soundbar

I have this exact setup (X900H + PS5 + Switch + XBox One) with a Samsung Q850A. Worth noting that the rear speakers are not truly wireless; they connect to a receiver via speaker cables and the receiver wirelessly transmits to the soundbar. X900H supports eARC which works great with the Q850A but the volume control is wonky. You can change the volume using the TV remote but the on-display volume bar won't move in-sync with the soundbar level

 X900H supports eARC which works great with the Q850A but the volume control is wonky. You can change the volume using the TV remote but the on-display volume bar won't move in-sync with the soundbar level.

 I recently purchased a Sony X900H and am in the market for a soundbar setup. I’m not an audiophile, more so just looking to upgrade from the horrible built-in TV speakers and have a better experience for playing video games (PS5 and Switch) and watching movies (looking for something that supports Dolby Atmos).

I’ve been doing my best to scour reddit and Google and would love some recommendations for set-ups. 

$400-500 range would be ideal starting range on budget, but open to going upward to $800-1000 for better features/set-up.

Here are a few I’ve been looking at:

[https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-5-1-2-channel-soundbar-with-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6454215.p?skuId=6454215&amp;ref=NS&amp;loc=101](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-5-1-2-channel-soundbar-with-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6454215.p?skuId=6454215&amp;ref=NS&amp;loc=101)

[https://www.bestbuy.com/site/jbl-9-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-and-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6412954.p?acampID=0&amp;cmp=RMX&amp;irclickid=R8LTI53DvxyIT7q1wvxsLRnxUkG10wQJM0UC0Q0&amp;irgwc=1&amp;loc=RTINGS.com&amp;mpid=1989377&amp;ref=198&amp;refdomain=rtings.com&amp;skuId=6412954](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/jbl-9-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-and-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6412954.p?acampID=0&amp;cmp=RMX&amp;irclickid=R8LTI53DvxyIT7q1wvxsLRnxUkG10wQJM0UC0Q0&amp;irgwc=1&amp;loc=RTINGS.com&amp;mpid=1989377&amp;ref=198&amp;refdomain=rtings.com&amp;skuId=6412954)

[https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-3-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-dolby-atmos-dtsx-and-built-in-wi-fi-black/6201448.p?skuId=6201448](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-3-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-dolby-atmos-dtsx-and-built-in-wi-fi-black/6201448.p?skuId=6201448)

I’d love to have a “surround” experience so something that has the option for expanding with satellite or rear speakers down the line would be great.  
 

Thanks!

<div class="md">I recently purchased a Sony X900H and am in the market for a soundbar setup. I’m not an audiophile, more so just looking to upgrade from the horrible built-in TV speakers and have a better experience for playing video games (PS5 and Switch) and watching movies (looking for something that supports Dolby Atmos).

I’ve been doing my best to scour reddit and Google and would love some recommendations for set-ups. 

$400-500 range would be ideal starting range on budget, but open to going upward to $800-1000 for better features/set-up.

Here are a few I’ve been looking at:

<a href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-5-1-2-channel-soundbar-with-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6454215.p?skuId=6454215&amp;ref=NS&amp;loc=101">https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-5-1-2-channel-soundbar-with-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6454215.p?skuId=6454215&amp;ref=NS&amp;loc=101</a>

<a href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/jbl-9-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-and-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6412954.p?acampID=0&amp;cmp=RMX&amp;irclickid=R8LTI53DvxyIT7q1wvxsLRnxUkG10wQJM0UC0Q0&amp;irgwc=1&amp;loc=RTINGS.com&amp;mpid=1989377&amp;ref=198&amp;refdomain=rtings.com&amp;skuId=6412954">https://www.bestbuy.com/site/jbl-9-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-and-dolby-atmos-dtsx-black/6412954.p?acampID=0&amp;cmp=RMX&amp;irclickid=R8LTI53DvxyIT7q1wvxsLRnxUkG10wQJM0UC0Q0&amp;irgwc=1&amp;loc=RTINGS.com&amp;mpid=1989377&amp;ref=198&amp;refdomain=rtings.com&amp;skuId=6412954</a>

<a href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-3-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-dolby-atmos-dtsx-and-built-in-wi-fi-black/6201448.p?skuId=6201448">https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-3-1-channel-soundbar-with-wireless-subwoofer-dolby-atmos-dtsx-and-built-in-wi-fi-black/6201448.p?skuId=6201448</a>

I’d love to have a “surround” experience so something that has the option for expanding with satellite or rear speakers down the line would be great. 

Thanks!
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Soundbar recommendations for Sony X900H + PS5

 The bass was too boomy (I like the bass from JBL more), but if bass is super necessary, you might be able to get an open box version from Best Buy around $500 (assuming you live in the US). I found the Samsung to be problematic though.

I am in an apartment so I am skipping the subwoofer. I did try a Samsung Q850A at first, but returned it. The bass was too boomy (I like the bass from JBL more), but if bass is super necessary, you might be able to get an open box version from Best Buy around $500 (assuming you live in the US). I found the Samsung to be problematic though

I have a decent size apartment but I don’t want to add extra speakers to my setup 

Is there a decent sounding Atmos Soundbar 

That also includes decent bass with in the Soundbar? 

If anyone know of any that are less than 500 dollars. I would greatly appreciate it

<div class="md">I have a decent size apartment but I don’t want to add extra speakers to my setup 

Is there a decent sounding Atmos Soundbar 

That also includes decent bass with in the Soundbar? 

If anyone know of any that are less than 500 dollars. I would greatly appreciate it
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What’s a good Soundbar for Dolby Atmos.

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Feel every word, every moment, every emotion, elevated. The new VIZIO Elevate 5.1.4 Home Theater Sound Bar with Dolby Atmos and DTS:X plus 18 total speakers with separate tweeters and dual woofers to breathe thrilling life into the latest movies, sports, gaming, and more. Revolutionary auto-rotating Adaptive Height Speakers blast sound off the ceiling, delivering completely immersive overhead surround sound. When rotated forward, these speakers provide a wider soundstage and clearer vocals to standard surround and stereo modes, particularly great for music. Voice Assistant Input lets you use the voice-enabled device you’re already accustomed to (sold separately) right through the sound bar, in addition to convenient Chromecast built-in and Bluetooth streaming. Three HDMI ports connect two 4K devices to the TV with eARC making setup clean and simple.

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The best 5.1 soundbar with passthrough that we've tested is the Vizio Elevate. Unlike the Sonos Arc with Sub + One SL Speakers and the Bose Smart Soundbar 900 with Speakers + Bass Module, this setup has a Full HDMI In port that supports high-quality passthrough, including Dolby Vision Passthrough. You can use the bar as a hub between different devices to play 5.1 surround sound movies and video games from your PC on your TV. Additionally, text on your screen appears clear and crisp.

This premium 5.1.4 setup has decent performance with surround sound, thanks to its two satellite speakers that offer a clear and real representation of sound objects like voices and moving vehicles. Its soundstage is quite wide, too, and the bar's unique design means that its sides can rotate upwards to make the soundstage seem even wider. Its bass-heavy sound profile means that you feel the extra punch in the bass range, especially during action scenes, while its balanced mids ensure that dialogue is still clearly reproduced.

Unfortunately, this soundbar doesn't come with a room correction feature, meaning that it can sound a bit different depending on the room you're in. It's also not ideal if you prefer a more neutral sound since you need to use its bass and treble adjustments to reduce the amount of bass it reproduces. Still, it's a very versatile 5.1 setup.

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The Elevate, with dedicated surround speakers and a subwoofer, delivers a dynamic, immersive audio experience, but voices don’t sound as clear as they do through our top pick.

The Elevate, with surround speakers and a subwoofer, delivers a dynamic, immersive audio experience and checks all the boxes in terms of soundbar features.

If you're looking for a more affordable option, check out the Vizio Elevate. It's a 5.1.4 setup with a unique design, as its sides automatically rotate upwards when you watch height content like Dolby Atmos or DTS:X for a more immersive feel. As a result, it has a wide soundstage that rivals some of our top picks, making you feel like you're right in the center of the action from the comfort of your living room. Its subwoofer brings the rumble in action-packed scenes, and its two rear satellites make sound effects more clear and real. However, you have to wire the satellites to the subwoofer to get them to work, which adds some extra annoying cables to your living room.

This soundbar is also a great choice for music and TV shows. There's a little extra boom in the bass range right out of the box, which is great for listening to bass-heavy genres like hip-hop and EDM, and its balanced mids mean that voices are still clear and present in the mix. Unfortunately, you don't get as many features as our top pick, the Samsung HW-Q990B, and the lack of room correction means that it sounds different depending on the room you're in. You can use its bass and treble adjustments to make up for this a bit, which is nice. If you want a bar with more sound enhancement features, like a graphic EQ, you can check out the Samsung HW-Q900A. It's a versatile alternative that comes without satellites, which is good if you don't have a lot of space. However, the tradeoff is obvious with surround sound, as you don't get the same immersive feel as the Vizio.

The best mid-range Dolby Atmos soundbar that we've tested is the Vizio Elevate. It's a premium bar available at a more affordable price than our top picks, and although it doesn't offer as many features, it's still a solid choice for listening to Dolby Atmos content. Its unique design comes with sides that automatically rotate upwards when you watch DTS:X or Dolby Atmos content, resulting in a wide, immersive soundstage that stretches sound to the walls of your living room. You can turn the feature on when you watch other types of content. Also, it comes with two rear speakers, so you get the impression that sound effects are coming from accurate locations in the room around you, all matching the action that takes place on your screen. There's also a sub that brings the thump and rumble in the bass that brings action-heavy scenes and intense movie scores to life.

Overall, it's a versatile option, meaning you can enjoy music, podcasts, and TV shows. Its default sound is pretty balanced, especially in the mids, where most voices and lead instruments reproduce, and the sub brings a little extra boom in the bass range that emphasizes bass-heavy genres like EDM. Compared to our top picks, you won't find a room correction feature, so it sounds a little different depending on the room you're in. Its bass and treble adjustments can make up for it a bit, but you don't have a graphic EQ to customize across the range. If you're looking for a customizable bar at a similar price point, you can check out the Samsung HW-Q900A. It's a versatile alternative that comes without satellites, which is good if you don't have a lot of space. However, the tradeoff is obvious with surround sound, as you don't get the same immersive feel as the Vizio.

The Vizio Elevate is the best 5.1 soundbar in the upper mid-range that we've tested. It's a premium 5.1.4 bar with a unique design, as the sides of the bar rotate upwards when you watch Dolby Atmos or DTS:X content, which helps create a wider, more immersive soundstage. You can also turn this feature on when you watch 5.1 content, like Dolby Digital or DTS. Thanks to its two discrete satellites, it offers a clear and real representation of surround sound, and the action seems like it's happening all around you, with sound effects coming from distinct locations. Unfortunately, you have to wire these satellites to the bar to get them to work, which can clutter your living space.

With its dedicated subwoofer, this soundbar has no trouble reproducing the deep thump and rumble in action-heavy scenes or powerful movie scores. There's a little extra boom in the bass though voices are still clear and present in the mix thanks to its balanced mids. You have some customization tools on hand, but not as many as the most premium setups, like the Bose Smart Soundbar 900 with Speakers + Bass Module. Without room correction, for example, it sounds a bit different depending on the acoustics of your space. Still, it's a versatile pick that's more affordable than the top-of-the-line models.

Wallet-conscious shoppers can also look at another more affordable option, the Vizio Elevate. It's the best mid-range bar we've tested, with versatile performance that makes it a good choice for listening to lots of different types of audio content. As with most Vizio soundbars, its dedicated subwoofer can reproduce a deep and thumpy low-bass, ensuring you feel all the rumble in action-heavy movies or bass-heavy music genres. There's already some extra emphasis in the bass right out of the box, and you can use its bass and treble adjustments to get a different sound if you like. However, unlike the Samsung HW-Q990B, you won't find a room correction feature, so it sounds a little different depending on the room you're in. You also have to wire the satellites to the sub to get them to work, which isn't ideal for every living area.

That said, this soundbar stands out from the crowd thanks to its unique design, with sides that automatically rotate upwards when you watch Dolby Atmos or DTS:X height content. It's a tool that brings more width and dimension to its soundstage, so you get the sense that audio is coming from all around you. You can turn this feature on when you watch other kinds of content, like 5.1 surround sound formats like Dolby Digital, which is found on many streaming platforms. Its rear satellites bring a more immersive feel, so sound effects seem clear and real in the space around you. If you don't have room for satellites, the Samsung HW-Q900A is a good alternative at a similar price, which comes with a graphic EQ for greater customization. However, the tradeoff is obvious with surround sound, as you don't get the same realistic feel as with the Vizio.

The Vizio Elevate is a more wallet-friendly option that still does a great job with dialogue-centric content, including movies and TV shows. It's a 5.1.4 setup, so it has fewer surround channels than our top options. However, with its discrete center, dialogue doesn't get lost in the action, and you have no problem making out voices in the mix. It has some dialogue-focused tools, like a voice enhancement feature and a night mode to balance its volume level between different programs. Unlike the Samsung HW-Q930B, there's no room correction tool, meaning it can sound a little different depending on your room's layout, but at least there are bass and treble adjustments to make up for this.

Overall, this soundbar's unique design makes it stand out from the crowd. Its sides rotate upwards when you watch Dolby Atmos or DTS:X content, and you can program it to perform the same with other formats. As a result, it offers a really wide, immersive-sounding soundstage that makes it feel like you're sitting right in the middle of your favorite flicks. Its subwoofer brings plenty of rumble in the bass, and its rear speakers stretch sound effects to the space around your living room. With its balanced mids, voices remain clear and present in the mix, making it a solid pick for lovers of more intense movies. Unfortunately, you have to wire the satellites to the sub, which isn't ideal for every layout. Still, it's a versatile bar for its price, and you have no trouble with dialogue.

Another more wallet-friendly option for movies is the Vizio Elevate. It's a 5.1.4 setup, and the sides of the bar automatically rotate upwards when you watch either Dolby Atmos or DTS:X content. This unique tool widens the bar's soundstage a bit, meaning you feel like the action in your favorite films is happening all around you. You can even turn it on with other types of audio content, too, if you want a more cinematic feel. With movies, it does a great job bringing the action to the space around you, and sound effects play out in a way that matches the action on your screen. As with our top picks, there's a sub to bring the rumble in the bass range, too. Also, you get two rear speakers included&mdash;however, you have to wire them to the subwoofer, which adds some extra wires to your living room setup.

Out-of-the-box, the bar's sound profile brings a little extra emphasis in the bass range, which helps you feel the excitement in action-packed movie scenes. Dialogue is still quite clear, thanks to its balanced mids, even if higher frequencies are a little dull due to the recessed treble compared to our top picks. There are bass and treble adjustments on hand to help you get a different sound, which is helpful, especially since there isn't a room correction feature or a full graphic EQ. Overall, if you don't need those extra sound enhancement tools, it's a great pick, and its versatile performance makes it suitable for listening to a wide range of audio content.

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 This is something that you can get that technology in your home, theater for under a thousand dollars for me to go into the other direction of just like, like having the conventional speakers with the receiver just just a receiver. Sometimes it's a thousand dollars which is insane. I mean there's this cheaper ones, but that's the thing you have to go through that whole ordeal of finding the right one. What, if you buy something that doesn't have what you're looking for so visual, is claiming that they they have everything that you need uh at a small with a small budget, and so so a more bang for your money

 Let me know uh in the comments what you think about these speakers, make sure you like subscribe and i'll see you the next one ciao you 

 So let's i'm gon na. Try that, let's, let's let's see if it works, i mean the price was something it was a selling point. This is something that you can get that technology in your home, theater for under a thousand dollars for me to go into the other direction of just like, like having the conventional speakers with the receiver just just a receiver. Sometimes it's a thousand dollars which is insane

 At least at the beginning, they say that they, they utilize uh the dolby atmos, so we're gon na pop it in and see uh how it sounds: [, Music, ] man, this this sound bar is unreal. Oh, my god, i guys i i mean it's gon na be hard for the sound to come through uh the video here, but i highly recommend this soundbar so far. My first impression is, i, i think, visual deliver on what they said about no compromise. I honestly felt like i was in the movie theater and, like i said before, if you have a small room that you can feel the sound with the sound bar, there's no reason for you to fill that room with speakers that is going to be overwhelming, and So, for the room that i have, this thing is amazing, and man like, like i said, i'm going

VIZIO Elevate - Best Home Theater Surround Sound Bar!!!

* **Rear Speakers** (wireless). Because of those wants, I've ruled out the Sony ST5000, Sennheiser Ambeo, Vizio Elevate, Nakamichi Shockwafe Ultra, Sonos Arc, Bose 700, and a few others. The remaining soundbars I'm looking at (and I'm open to other options) are:. * LG SN11RG or SP11RA (once released)

 The remaining soundbars I'm looking at (and I'm open to other options) are:. * LG SN11RG or SP11RA (once released).

Sorry Vizio, I really wanted to fall in love with this sound bar but I ended up returning it. The major issue for me was the EXTREME volume of the sub woofer. Even on the very lowest setting the woofer volume was overwhelming. I spent hours on the internet reading about this problem and a good number of people are reporting the same issue

  For people that REALLY like over the top bass then this might be a good choice. But if you live in an apartment then you neighbors will end up hating you, LOL.

 It took it about 3-5 seconds. Then the volume would get really low and it was taking too long to turn it back up.  On the good side of things the software in the app for fine-tuning the sound was the best I have seen when it comes to so many ways to adjust things.  The other thing I really missed was the ability to have the sound bar play music on it's own like the SONOS and BOSE do

Really wanted to like this sound bar but ended up returning it.

I just got a Vizio Elevate and love it, took me a couple of days to get it set up the way I wanted and it sounds fantastic...

.no biggie, I just used the SmartCast app on my phone as a remote to adjust everything. I would give it 9 out of 10 based on my personal experience.

Bought the Elevate on sale for $700 (Best buy) but read a lot of comments like it: “Sounds great, but one of the most frustrating devices I’ve ever used.” Other comments have been about issues with the app and connectivity issues. If I’m going to pay that much money I’d rather not deal with these issues, but the Arc does cost more for less (no sub or rears). I’ve demod the Arc at Best Buy and thought it sounded awesome. Also, have read that it’s basically plug and play with no issues.

Return the elevate for the arc or keep it and pray for no issues?

<div class="md">Bought the Elevate on sale for $700 (Best buy) but read a lot of comments like it: “Sounds great, but one of the most frustrating devices I’ve ever used.” Other comments have been about issues with the app and connectivity issues. If I’m going to pay that much money I’d rather not deal with these issues, but the Arc does cost more for less (no sub or rears). I’ve demod the Arc at Best Buy and thought it sounded awesome. Also, have read that it’s basically plug and play with no issues.

Return the elevate for the arc or keep it and pray for no issues?
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Vizio Elevate or Sonos Arc

 * Sonos Beam ← higher sound quality, smaller size maybe?. * Vizio Elevate - P514a-H6 ← higher sound quality, Atmos (but with Vizio's reliability, meh).

* Sonos Playbase ← higher sound quality, could take less place. * Bose Soundbar 700 ← higher sound quality. * Sonos Beam ← higher sound quality, smaller size maybe?. * Vizio Elevate - P514a-H6 ← higher sound quality, Atmos (but with Vizio's reliability, meh)

Here’s my dilemma. I’m writing this up partly to get advice but also to help me think it through…

I’ve just gotten a new TV, 65” Sony X950F (has eARC). I’d like to upgrade my soundbar too. I currently have a Samsung Q70R SB with the optional rears. It’s been mostly fine. Occasional bugs. The app is not great. Sound from the front is good. The rears feel like a gimmick. The Atmos *maybe* adds a bit of vertical soundstage but nothing dramatic or very impressive.

My priorities for the upgrade are: better rears that have power cables instead of the flimsy speaker cable that joins the current rears; ease of use/better app control; better SQ overall; better Atmos

The room is a huge combined lounge/dining/kitchen. It has a 10-20 degree upward sloping roof from the TV end, starting at about 8’.

I also own a pair of Sonos Ones and Gen 3 sub that we use as a 2.1 smart stereo in the dining/family part of the room, very close to the TV area.

The obvious path would be to get a Sonos Arc and turn the 2.1 into a combined music/HT setup. Except, the Arc is 16mm taller than the space below the screen of the TV and the TV cannot be wall-mounted. We have also just bought a really nice TV console for the TV to go on. So there’s a strong reluctance to using anything to raise the TV that will spoil the aesthetic of it. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on this front.

So these are my options:

1. Get the Arc and try to find a way to raise the TV tastefully or live with the slight screen covering. The advantages of the Arc are that it makes use of the Sonos pieces we already have, particularly the sub. It will also simplify and consolidate the set up of the room and bring QOL improvements with a much better app and Sonos reliability/consistency. I value the non-sound and non-surround qualities because I think the room and SBs in general limit the effectiveness of the surround features anyway. The downside with the Arc, apart from the fit, is that rears are single directional and it might slightly degrade the music experience due to placement.

2. Samsung Q870A. This is within budget and fits beneath the screen. The rears that come with that set would be a solid upgrade, they have up-firing speakers, are bigger and more robust. The downsides to this option are that the bar and sub are probably only a more marginal upgrade (not sure about this though, there are very few reviews of this set?) and all the usual Samsung QOL issues (bad app, potential bugs and inconsistencies etc.)

3. Samsung Q950A. For this option I’d have to wait for significant sales or look for a factory second. It would be a big SQ upgrade across the board. But the usual Samsung issues, plus fabric cover and display on top of the bar.

<div class="md">Here’s my dilemma. I’m writing this up partly to get advice but also to help me think it through…

I’ve just gotten a new TV, 65” Sony X950F (has eARC). I’d like to upgrade my soundbar too. I currently have a Samsung Q70R SB with the optional rears. It’s been mostly fine. Occasional bugs. The app is not great. Sound from the front is good. The rears feel like a gimmick. The Atmos maybe adds a bit of vertical soundstage but nothing dramatic or very impressive.

My priorities for the upgrade are: better rears that have power cables instead of the flimsy speaker cable that joins the current rears; ease of use/better app control; better SQ overall; better Atmos

The room is a huge combined lounge/dining/kitchen. It has a 10-20 degree upward sloping roof from the TV end, starting at about 8’.

I also own a pair of Sonos Ones and Gen 3 sub that we use as a 2.1 smart stereo in the dining/family part of the room, very close to the TV area.

The obvious path would be to get a Sonos Arc and turn the 2.1 into a combined music/HT setup. Except, the Arc is 16mm taller than the space below the screen of the TV and the TV cannot be wall-mounted. We have also just bought a really nice TV console for the TV to go on. So there’s a strong reluctance to using anything to raise the TV that will spoil the aesthetic of it. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on this front.

So these are my options:

<ol>
<li>Get the Arc and try to find a way to raise the TV tastefully or live with the slight screen covering. The advantages of the Arc are that it makes use of the Sonos pieces we already have, particularly the sub. It will also simplify and consolidate the set up of the room and bring QOL improvements with a much better app and Sonos reliability/consistency. I value the non-sound and non-surround qualities because I think the room and SBs in general limit the effectiveness of the surround features anyway. The downside with the Arc, apart from the fit, is that rears are single directional and it might slightly degrade the music experience due to placement.</li>
<li>Samsung Q870A. This is within budget and fits beneath the screen. The rears that come with that set would be a solid upgrade, they have up-firing speakers, are bigger and more robust. The downsides to this option are that the bar and sub are probably only a more marginal upgrade (not sure about this though, there are very few reviews of this set?) and all the usual Samsung QOL issues (bad app, potential bugs and inconsistencies etc.)</li>
<li>Samsung Q950A. For this option I’d have to wait for significant sales or look for a factory second. It would be a big SQ upgrade across the board. But the usual Samsung issues, plus fabric cover and display on top of the bar.</li>
</ol>
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