Optimus Nova vs Stansport Outfitter Series 3-Burner

#2: I wouldn't buy that bag. -20 in a synthetic is highly suspect. To reach that bag rating, even for lower limit, in a synthetic bag would require a 7 or 8lb bag with an enormous pack size. AlPS does NOT astm teat their bags

This grill is pretty hefty feeling, so hopefully it lasts. Why it got two stars: One of the tabs on the lid that the side wind guard hooks in to is welded so far out of alignment that it cannot work at all. So the lid can only be held up by one side and the other burner is not protected and not able to keep as much heat in. Three out of four of the riveted hinges on the side wind guards are loose and quite wobbly right out of the box

Like the old Nova, you can flip the fuel tank and allow the flame to go out, insuring that all pressure is relieved from the tank before storing. The stove travels nicely in the pot of my cook kit.

Mine came damaged, only three legs touch the counter surface, the other is floating about half an inch, there's an obvious indentation under the stove, the manual says "ALWAYS place stove on a flat, level, solid surface", I did, but the fourth leg still floats half an inch, the two wind flaps consequentially don't latch, by the way that latching system seems very poor. I had high hopes for this little stove, it's a pain to have to return something. Overall, I think a better quality metal would be better, sand the thing well and paint it, part of quality assurance should be to make sure there's nothing that can potentially hurt the customer, like sharp metal edges, like I said, mine came damaged, so I don't even know if it works, or if it's safe to use, another failure point is the packaging, only one layer of bubble wrap inside two boxes, but the inner box is more like thick paper, very poor packaging, very frustrated with this purchase.

,,The Nova and Primus both have solid aluminum vs the brittle MSR plastic pumps...This is probably the largest differentiating factor

First the good news: arrived promptly, a day earlier than promised, quick and easy set-up, piezo igniter easy to operate, flame adjusts from very low simmer to hot-hot-hot and everything in between so I think functionality is above average, but I still have to take two stars off. 1. The item pictured here is either not the 21250 Outfitter or the picture is outdated; and it isn’t just a cosmetic difference. The one I received is black with blue top/windscreens (I double checked and the box is labeled with the 21250 model number) which isn’t too big of a deal, but it has only a single latch not the double latch pictured and I really wanted one with two latches as I feel it to be more secure (at least it is a metal latch and not plastic), the “feet” on the one I received are relatively shallow molded nubs on the underside of the stove not the taller screw on feet pictured, that has both pros and cons: you don’t have to sit and screw on 4 feet and fewer parts is fewer parts to get lost and have to replace, but there’s a lot less clearance under the stove and you can’t use those molded in nubs to level it the way you can with screw on feet

so about half a million $5 cans of fuel later I started to think I may need something a little better than a pocket rocket.,,,,so here i am, it was on sale nice adjustable flame unlike most out there its not just an on or off stove.,,,,if i was shopping all over again I'd still pick this stove

It up here. Here's the piezo that goes in the second one. There you go and you can see this - has you can really kick out the heat out there. This we'...