Lowa Renegate GTX MID vs Salomon Quest 4 Gore-Tex Hiking Boots

These last two, didn't come close to that. WAY too expensive to put up with this. I guess I will hunt for another brand.

I have had both the previous versions of these and I have loved them, however I use them for completely different things. So I want to talk about what...

Sole is not as stiff as my last pair of hiking boots so i do feel some of the rougher rock edges when i skip from rock to rock up a trail. Not a real problem though. When i know i am doing elevation and heading down hill i can definitely adjust the boots and tighten the bottom 4 eyelets to ensure my foot doesnt move at all and hit the toe box. Otherwise i keep it a little looser for comfort

You wouldn't really run in those in pretty much any kind of normal wearing situation, but that allows me to have a very, very unbiased, very balanced ...

I also think the uppers on the newer ones are more susceptible to stitching tears. I like them because they fit me well, and seem to have a nice balance between rugged-ness and lightness. Another reason is that I am a bit clumsy and they protect my feet when I slam into a stone or root. However, I do seem to be between a narrow and a mid, which causes problems for my baby toes on a long tramp; I may just switch to a mid for pair #3 and see how that goes

I've got nothing bad to say about them yet. All I could say is that when they're new they are fairly tight, tightly fitted and they're fairly stiff so...

Very much true to size - great for high-volume feet. I have wide (EE) feet and the 9.5W is a perfect fit. Also fits well over the arch which is one place I often find shoes to fit too tight on me

MUCH taller. That's great news for those who couldn't wear this model before and had to go with the traditionally roomier boots, like Keen, but not good for those like myself who appreciated a boot that their foot wouldn't get lost in. I have no doubt that this would be a great boot for the new customers that Salomon will gain, but it's VERY MUCH not for some of those of us who favored this model in the past. And, BTW, it's also about 1/2 a size longer