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The Camox is a good ski but Black Crows are a bit overpriced for what they are if you're paying retail. Similar skis at a more affordable price range would be the Rossi Blackops 98, Liberty Origin 96, Fischer Ranger 94 FR, Salomon QST 98.

I have been skiing for around 6 years. I am male, 5’11” and 155 pounds. I spend most of my time hitting side jibs down trails and in the terrain park but I also really enjoy steep and fast technical terrain. I would consider myself a high intermediate to expert. I have gone on a two week back country skiing expedition and want a set up that is mostly used in resorts but has touring capabilities. 

I was looking at getting the Marker Duke Pt bindings on a pair of Black Crow Camox. I’m pretty stoked on the bindings because of how they are good alpine bindings with touring capabilities. I know they are heavier but I see it being a good soloution to what I want.  

What skis would you recommend. Are the Camox able to be used as touring skis effectively?? I know they are heavier in regards to touring but I really like the playfulness and twin tips and dimensions. What are your thoughts on these skis? Any other skis that fit what I want that you would recommend? I’ve been looking into Black Crowd because i think that they are a really cool brand. 

I would really appreciate any advice/thoughts. Thanks!

<div class="md"><p>I have been skiing for around 6 years. I am male, 5’11” and 155 pounds. I spend most of my time hitting side jibs down trails and in the terrain park but I also really enjoy steep and fast technical terrain. I would consider myself a high intermediate to expert. I have gone on a two week back country skiing expedition and want a set up that is mostly used in resorts but has touring capabilities. </p>

<p>I was looking at getting the Marker Duke Pt bindings on a pair of Black Crow Camox. I’m pretty stoked on the bindings because of how they are good alpine bindings with touring capabilities. I know they are heavier but I see it being a good soloution to what I want.  </p>

<p>What skis would you recommend. Are the Camox able to be used as touring skis effectively?? I know they are heavier in regards to touring but I really like the playfulness and twin tips and dimensions. What are your thoughts on these skis? Any other skis that fit what I want that you would recommend? I’ve been looking into Black Crowd because i think that they are a really cool brand. </p>

<p>I would really appreciate any advice/thoughts. Thanks!</p>
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 So it starts to get a bit warm out here, so the conditions have come in very varied at the moment, but this ski's been able to cope with everything so far and I've really been able to give it some, so mack it down the piece. And the ski's still able to keep its nice solid grip on the foot because you've got a nice solid wood core from Blackrose, that's what they believe in. They don't believe in putting pretty much anything else in the ski, that's what it relies on. And because it's nice and cambered on the foot, when you throw it onto its edge, it just holds that grip very, very nicely

 Hi there, it's Jale from Snail Rock. I've just come back from shredding around on these Blackrose Camox. So it starts to get a bit warm out here, so the conditions have come in very varied at the moment, but this ski's been able to cope with everything so far and I've really been able to give it some, so mack it down the piece. And the ski's still able to keep its nice solid grip on the foot because you've got a nice solid wood core from Blackrose, that's what they believe in

Black Crows Camox 2020 Snow+Rock Ski Review

 So great ski, very versatile shape. To take a look at weight, this is the 180.4 centimeter length and comes in just under 1900 grams. So you know pretty darn middle of the road and I think that's kind of a good way to think about the ski even though I feel like most people would perceive that as a negative

 Hey skiers, I'm Jeff from SkiEssentials.com. Welcome to our 2023 ski test. Today we're talking about the Black Crows Kamex

 There is more tip rocker in this ski than tail rocker and also looking at the recommended mount point, we're not close to true center on this ski. You could go a little further forward from that if you wanted to but I would venture a guess that most people are sticking pretty close to the recommended line. So great ski, very versatile shape. To take a look at weight, this is the 180

 Let us know if you have any questions about it as usual and we'll see you out there on the hill.

2023 Black Crows Camox - SkiEssentials.com Ski Test

 Soft snow, hard snow, we got a pretty firm snow day on these last year, and I was just really impressed with the energy out of the turn. This is a 180, and it generates a 20 meter turn radius, so you can hold that edge for longer. With that minimal taper, it does have a long effective edge, so really smooth turns throughout the whole arc, but really just a fantastic, versatile ski, all-mountain, freeride-oriented, and just a lot of energy. If you like having that good rebound out of a turn, something like this is going to be right up your alley

 The cap construction really keeps the ski functioning as one cohesive unit, giving good feedback, while this underfoot area, the sidewall, full sidewall here, provides that really good edge grip. A little bit of a twin tip shape here, and for all-mountain skiing and freeride stuff, that's kind of what you're looking for. I love it in the woods. You can kind of back out of tight spots and tricky situations

 Fresh paint job on the Camex for this year. Check this thing out at SkiEssentials.com, and we'll see you out there on the hill. Bye

2021 SkiEssentials.com Ski Test - Black Crows Camox

 And just so you know, I'm not sponsored by any brands and if you want help finding the right gear for you, reach out to me uncurated. So this is Black Crow's 9,500 foot lightweight touring ski that's under 1,400 grams. So this is a ski that you're going to take only for touring, not great for at the resort even though that's what we did a little bit of today. But it's going to be a ski that flies uphill and skis down pretty well as well

 You're not going to carve groomers, you're not going to go super fast, like these are for making smooth turns in the trees and the open powder and then really like savoring every little bit of soft snow you get rather than really just pushing through hard. There's not going to be many skis that are sub-1400 grams, that are 9500 foot, that are going to ski this well. Also the top sheet does a really good job of shedding snow. Just in looking at my ski partner's skis after skiing the exact same run, he had a lot more snow on his top sheets

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The Volkl M6 Mantra has truly earned our approval as the best all-mountain ski, keeping the Mantra series atop the podium once again. With high scores across all testing metrics, the M6 transmits a magnetic and confidence-inspiring ride to the skier through all types of terrain and snow conditions. Whether the forecast is unclear and snow conditions uncertain, staying true to your “Mantra” is what we recommend. With three of Volkl’s Tailored Technologies underfoot, be prepared to tackle anything the mountain throws your way.
This year Volkl introduces their 3D Radius Sidecut technology to the M6 Mantra. Boasting three different turn radii within the side of the ski, the M6 can achieve a different turn outcome depending on skier input. This new technology admittedly took some getting used to. However, we found the tech especially helpful when merging onto a new run with more traffic or exiting a mogul field back onto the groomer. The M6 Mantra is on the damp side of the spectrum for skis. But we can’t complain when the overall result is the superior combination of stability and maneuverability that this ski offers through icy groomers, afternoon chop and slop, and deep pow days.

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On the heels of the extremely successful and well-loved M5, Volkl hasn’t rocked the boat too much with the new M6 Mantra. It remains an extremely powerful and precise all-mountain option that’s perfectly happy in the hands of hard chargers at speed. Volkl did make some tweaks to the Titanal Frame construction: shorter skis now have less metal and are a little softer, while longer options are stronger with more metal. You also get the brand’s 3D Radius (also found in the Kendo below), which effectively gives the ski three different turn radii. In practice, it’s pretty impressive, and the M6 feels comfortable at everything from tight and quick turns to wide GS sweepers.

It’s a close call between the M6 and Nordica Enforcer above, and both are versatile, standout models. In parsing out the differences, the Mantra is noticeably wider at the tip (by 8mm), and its stiffer build gives it the advantage in terms of stability. But the Nordica is more comfortable in tight spaces with its nimble, easier-to-manage flex (this also makes it a better option for intermediate-level skiers). Both are excellent one-quiver options for riders that spend the majority of their time on groomers or in regions with moderate snowfall. We think the Nordica is a bit more well-rounded, but if you prioritize unflappable performance in nearly all conditions, the M6 Mantra is hard to beat.See the Volkl M6 Mantra  See the Women's Volkl Secret

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The Volkl M6 Mantra has truly earned our approval as the best all-mountain ski, keeping the Mantra series atop the podium once again. With high scores across all testing metrics, the M6 transmits a magnetic and confidence-inspiring ride to the skier through all types of terrain and snow conditions. Whether the forecast is unclear and snow conditions uncertain, staying true to your "Mantra" is what we recommend. With three of Volkl's Tailored Technologies underfoot, be prepared to tackle anything the mountain throws your way.
This version of the M6 Mantra comes with Volkl's 3D Radius Sidecut technology. Boasting three different turn radii within the side of the ski, the M6 can achieve a different turn outcome depending on skier input. This new technology admittedly took some getting used to. However, we found the tech especially helpful when merging onto a new run with more traffic or exiting a mogul field back onto the groomer. The M6 Mantra is on the damp side of the spectrum for skis. But we can't complain when the overall result is the superior combination of stability and maneuverability that this ski offers through icy groomers, afternoon chop and slop, and deep pow days.
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6'0 270lbs here. Volkl M6 Mantra 184 is what I ski, and before that I was on an older pair of Matra's. This is what you want, or something similarly stiff like a Nordica Enforcer etc.

I recently switched from boards to skiing again and am looking for a solid all mountain ski that will actually let me carve instead of just folding and sliding sideways.  I don't have much faith in the Amazon sponsored lists, and every manufacturer seems happy to say that their ski will work great, so I'm looking for real world info.

I am 6'3" and presently 260lbs and falling (down from 300).  I intend to reach a 230lb goal weight by next season.  I am mostly on 184 k2 poacher twin tips, but the whole twin thing isnt as fun as I had expected.  I have a worn out pair of 193 salomon xscreams that are old and shitty.  I ski midwest groomed/ice 95% of the time 2+ times a week with occasional real snowfall and 1-2 trips west.  I'd say I'm solid intermediate maybe a little advanced, sometimes I like to go 25-30mph according to gps.

I have been told to get skis with metal, and avoid the capped ones for ones with more rigid sidewalls.  Hoping to look late or off season because I just spent alot on proper boots.  Anyone have advice?

<div class="md"><p>I recently switched from boards to skiing again and am looking for a solid all mountain ski that will actually let me carve instead of just folding and sliding sideways.  I don&#39;t have much faith in the Amazon sponsored lists, and every manufacturer seems happy to say that their ski will work great, so I&#39;m looking for real world info.</p>

<p>I am 6&#39;3&quot; and presently 260lbs and falling (down from 300).  I intend to reach a 230lb goal weight by next season.  I am mostly on 184 k2 poacher twin tips, but the whole twin thing isnt as fun as I had expected.  I have a worn out pair of 193 salomon xscreams that are old and shitty.  I ski midwest groomed/ice 95% of the time 2+ times a week with occasional real snowfall and 1-2 trips west.  I&#39;d say I&#39;m solid intermediate maybe a little advanced, sometimes I like to go 25-30mph according to gps.</p>

<p>I have been told to get skis with metal, and avoid the capped ones for ones with more rigid sidewalls.  Hoping to look late or off season because I just spent alot on proper boots.  Anyone have advice?</p>

<p>Edit: Thanks so much everyone - have a pair of Volkl kendo 88 184cm coming.  I will try to post a followup.  I would have waited but supply chain issues are real!</p>
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 Buy the Volcomantra M6 if you want a slightly wider, hard-charging, powerful feeling ski that maximizes frontside performance.

2023 Volkl M6 Mantra - Ski Review

 So we get tailored titanal frame and we get tailored carbon tip. Tailored titanal frame is pretty darn cool. Simply they took some metal out of the tip of the ski. So if you're to compare m5 mantra, m6 mantra the metal frame, especially just right in the end of the ski or only in right, in the end of the ski and in the tail as well

 Something that really kind of jumped out to me is. Is this morning we skied with uh, with a local local skier named christy who's who's, very, very good. At skiing racing background, she's been with vocal for a long time as like an athlete ambassador type position, she normally skis something like a 170 secret. I had her test the 177 m6 mantra this morning and watching her

 You know you're, probably going to take this ski off trail from time to time, just because, if you're choosing this width chances are you're going to be skiing, something other than just a groomer. So it's achieving that high level of carving performance, high level, precision and responsiveness and edge grip, while still being a relatively versatile ski. So all of that stuff carries over to this new mantra. They did a really good job of retaining what was already great about it, and to me that the highlighting characteristic of this ski has always been its precision

 So taking some swing weight out of the tip of the ski and what makes it tailored is it changes per length? So this is kind of similar to, or at least reminds me of what blizzard's doing with their true blend wood core. Basically, the the engineers at vocal are looking for ways to kind of custom, tweak the performance for each length of the ski, which i think is really cool and, and i think something that we'll probably see work its way into more and more brands in the ski Industry so take this 184 take the 184 and the 177 m6 mantra. This 184 has a longer thicker part of the metal. You know, essentially, the this portion is very similar, but this portion is longer and you know without measuring

2022 Volkl M6 Mantra Ski Review with SkiEssentials.com

 Today, i'm here to talk to you about the volkl m6 mantra baby. It'S a brand new ski this year, we're pumped they actually utilized some newer technology from the volkl kendo that came out about two years ago and introduced it into the m6 this year. Some of that technology consists of 3d radius, beach, poplar core and the space frame. Poplar beach poplar your fun poppy playful wood, beach, stable stay on the snow charge through crud, two sheets of metal around the space frame, two full sheets of metal throughout the center and two sheets around the space frame and the tail

2022 Volkl M6 Mantra Product Review

For reference, here are a number of our measured weights (per ski in grams) for some notable skis. Keep in mind the length differences to try to keep things apples-to-apples.1638 & 1639 Atomic Maven 93 C, 172 cm (21/22)1734 & 1750 Renoun Endurance 98, 184 cm (18/19–20/21)1758 & 1758 Head Kore 93, 180 cm (19/20–20/21)1781 & 1795 Atomic Maverick 100 Ti, 180 cm (21/22)1801 & 1839 Salomon Stance 90, 176 cm (20/21–21/22)1807 & 1840 Atomic Bent Chetler 100, 188 cm (18/19–21/22)1810 & 1828 Armada Declivity 92 Ti, 180 cm (20/21–21/22)1833 & 1842 Volkl Secret 96, 163 cm (21/22)1863 & 1894 Blizzard Rustler 9, 180 cm (18/19–21/22)1883 & 1906 Season Aero, 180 cm (20/21)1900 & 1908 Atomic Maverick 95 Ti, 180 cm (21/22)1921 & 1968 Head Kore 99, 188 cm (18/19–20/21)1925 & 1934 Black Crows Camox, 186.5 cm (19/20–21/22)1925 & 1937 Liberty Helix 98, 186 cm (18/19–21/22)1936 & 2013 Salomon Stance 96, 182 cm (20/21–21/22)1937 & 1945 Fischer Ranger 94 FR, 184 cm (19/20–21/22)1966 & 1973 Liberty Origin 96, 187 cm (18/19–20/21)1976 & 2028 Parlor Cardinal Pro, 182 cm (19/20–20/21)1985 & 2006 Parlor Cardinal 100, 185 cm (16/17–20/21)1994 & 2011 Fischer Ranger 99 Ti, 181 cm (19/20–21/22)1998 & 2044 4FRNT MSP 99, 181 cm (17/18–21/22)1999 & 2060 Line Blade, 181 cm (20/21–21/22)2043 & 2089 Volkl M6 Mantra, 177 cm (21/22)2049 & 2065 Volkl Mantra M5, 177 cm (18/19–20/21)2054 & 2063 Salomon QST 98, 189 cm (21/22)2055 & 2080 Salomon QST 99, 181 cm (19/20–20/21)2085 & 2096 Dynastar Menace 98, 181 cm (19/20–20/21)2089 & 2105 Nordica Soul Rider 97, 185 cm (15/16–21/22)2115 & 2149 J Skis Masterblaster, 181 cm (16/17–20/21)2178 & 2195 Volkl M6 Mantra, 184 cm (21/22)2218 & 2244 Volkl Mantra 102, 184 cm (19/20–21/22)2256 & 2284 Nordica Enforcer 94, 186 cm (20/21–21/22)2281 & 2284 Blizzard Bonafide 97, 177 cm (20/21–21/22)2311 & 2342 K2 Mindbender 99Ti, 184 cm (19/20–21/22)Now that we’ve gotten that out of the way, let’s get into how these things actually perform on snow:As we noted above, we got to spend time on a few different lengths of this ski in order to get an idea of how Volkl’s “tailored” technology actually feels on snow, and to see how these skis stack up against their competition

Bottom LineWith the history of the Mantra name behind it, the Volkl M6 Mantra had a lot to live up to. The good news is that Volkl didn’t go in a wildly different direction from the M5 — the new M6 is still a very good, versatile, stable all-mountain ski that will reward experienced skiers with plenty of precision and stability while still serving as a useful tool for exploring just about any mountain.Deep Dive ComparisonsBecome a Blister Member or Deep Dive subscriber to check out our Deep Dive comparisons of the M6 Mantra to see how it compares to the M5 Mantra, Volkl Mantra 102, Blizzard Bonafide 97, Atomic Maverick 95 Ti, Nordica Enforcer 94, Armada Declivity 92 Ti, Salomon QST 98, Salomon Stance 96, Salomon QST 99, Moment Commander 98, 4FRNT MSP 99, Fischer Ranger 102 FR, Fischer Ranger 94 FR, Dynastar M-Pro 99, K2 Mindbender 99Ti, J Skis Masterblaster, Blizzard Rustler 9, & DPS Pagoda Piste 94 C2.

 And if you want the absolute most stable ski in this class, there are a few other better alternatives.But if you appreciate very good edge hold, turn initiation, and composure on piste when considering an all-mountain ski — but you still spend a significant amount of time in bumps, trees, and other off-piste terrain and conditions — the M6 Mantra offers a whole lot to like.Bottom LineWith the history of the Mantra name behind it, the Volkl M6 Mantra had a lot to live up to. The good news is that Volkl didn’t go in a wildly different direction from the M5 — the new M6 is still a very good, versatile, stable all-mountain ski that will reward experienced skiers with plenty of precision and stability while still serving as a useful tool for exploring just about any mountain

2021-2022 Volkl M6 Mantra | Blister

 In that all-mountain category, maybe you have a race background or you just like that style of skiing, and you want something that's going to feel strong and responsive, but something that will also handle a wider range of snow conditions. You know late in the day when the groomers get chopped up or or even on, like a six to eight inch powder day or something like that. M6 mantra does just fine, so yeah really cool ski. It'S really nice to have

 It updated the technology and it updated the construction. And now we just get a little bit more refined ski, very similar performance, but but yeah refined and enhanced i'd say so. It starts off with the same multi-layer, wood core, that vocal uses in a lot of their skis, and then we get what vocal is calling tailored, titanal frame and tailored carbon tips. So titanal frame was introduced on the m5 mantra and now it's basically just been changed

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