Trakke vs 5.11 Rush12

Another nice feature is the drainage holes at the bottom. If the water bladder springs a leak the water can quickly drain out the bottom before soaking the entire pack (it's happened to me before during hikes or MTB rides, I crashed once on the MTB and sprung a leak). I do have a couple suggestions for improvement: 1) I hike in the mountains and hills of Japan when I visit the country and I would like to use this pack as a carry on item with my notebook PC. The pocket in the main compartment is wide enough for most notebook PC but it could be better

no likey. Trakke Hoy 25L - good design, one good colour option, but looks super bulky.

This pack has worked out great! I wanted something smaller than the RUSH24 (I’ve had that pack for years) to build a pack for indefinite sustainment. A larger pack makes it easy to overfill with stuff you don’t really “need”, and that translates to more weight. My goal was a pack that equaled 10% of my body weight (or 18lbs). This pack fit everything perfectly snug

I can vouch for both, they are really good bags. They both fit a 15" Dell XPS - the Khyte laptop compartment is padded.

but maybe a tight fit with the laptop in one of the bigger inner pockets. Quality on the 12 looks good.

And one more comment on this con here we so we obviously you know we I was you know testing this pack but we also had other people try it on and after...

There was a bend in the insert that caused a lump to ride on my back for the first few days until I figured out what the issue was. I took out the insert and cut it down (hard material to cut), hasn't been an issue since. 2) The straps shoulder straps tend to loosen up with normal use. Once every day or two, I find myself tightening the straps back down because they get looser

The zippers are from YKK, which is reassuring since they’re pretty much the gold standard for zippers. They’re AquaGuard-style, which prevent moisture from seeping in. While the zippers themselves are fine if a bit stiff, the ring pulls raise some doubt.

One other draw back is the zippers are operated with that pull cord which sucks, because the pull cord on one of my zippers broke. So now im gonna have to use a shoe lace or zip tie to fix the problem. That is litterally the only ounce of damage to this pack though, and ive been using it pretty harshly for about 2 years now.

The main entry point of this bag, of course, is the rolltop. Once you undo the buckle, you simply unroll the fabric and you’ll have access to the main compartment.

So if you get caught in some rain, i'd worry about water, starting to seep in here: there's no aqua guard or rain flap, but still nice. You can reach ...