rOtring 600 vs Lamy Joy

Get a Rotring 600 and you can use Uni Jetstream ink refills. Brass body on the Rotring and excellent ink if you like EF / F / write small

I need a good pen that is always ready for taking immediate notes, when we have problems or issues at the observatory... 1) The ink cartridges for this pen (both "pre-packaged" & refillable styles), have only small capacity- I run out of ink within a few pages of notes, usually within less than a full day of work

IMO the Rotring is too expensive at that price point. You can get a Rotring 600 for $30, which is practically the same pen without the retractable tip. I prefer to find pens with the LEAST amount of moving parts so there's a decreased risk of mechanical failure.

The nib is decent, I suppose for the price. The 1.1 italic nib gives me exactly what I was looking for whereas the fine nib on the Safari was a big disappointment. The 1

I have average size hands (maybe a tad larger than average) for a guy and this pen feels tiny. So tiny it hurts my hand to write with for a while. Also, as others have stated, it clicks everytime you lift and place down because the cartridges do not have a good fit inside the pen. The actuall metal body build quality is very nice, but I will not be using it as it is uncomfortable to write with

I find the nibs on these pens need a lot of working-in before the ink has a consistent flow. I was also using high quality papers to practice on. I have been a calligraphy practitioner for 40 years and I was really disappointed with the inconsistent flow of ink from the nibs which affects the thickness / width of the lettering intermittently, resulting in a poor overall appearance of gothic, italic and uncial scripts. The 1

It lacks heft, the clicking mechanism is spongy, overall it just isn’t the same. Do yourself a favour, scour eBay for an original, they were just better.

I love the thinness of my Lamy CP1, but it's a bit heavy even at just 17g. I love the look of it posted, but it throws my handwriting off because of the extra weight on the end. My Lamy Joy and Safari are super light at about 11g each (I bought them for this reason) but the shafts are still quite thick; even with the ergonomic grip they aren't super comfortable for pages of writing.

I’ve owned a few of these over the years and they are straight to the point, (no pun intended) sturdy, reliable, comfortable and look sharp, not bulky at all, physically the same size as a disposable Bic pen. For the price, if you use a ballpoint pen for work regularly, this is probably the last pen you need to buy (as a normal not-flashy person)

We have a LAMY Safari and got this because of videos and reviews on line but when we received it seemed cheaply made. Plastic seemed cheap, the red piece at the end of the pen looked very cheaply made and everything about it looked like a mass produced toy. We did not even ink it up and test it but found that it had previously been inked by someone else, there was a blue tinge to the feed mechanism. So happy that returns are so extremely easy with Amazon which is all the more reason to get things through Amazon Prime