Outdoor Research Carbide Sensor vs Hestra Gloves Army Leather Heli Ski

First I have to admit finding gloves that fit from OR has been a problem for ME. And after multiple tries I have discovered that for my hand, I need men's size large in their liners, and size medium in their outerwear gloves--my advice, definitely measure your hand and use their guide, but you still might just be on the line--some of us just are. So at the risk of sounding like Goldilocks, after returning the Arete gloves earlier this winter, because the inner liner was extremely difficult to get into (the cuff was too tight) I really wanted to love the Carbides even though they don't have a removable liner. But unfortunately, there are two design flaws in my opinion: 1) the insulation extends up from the wrist to the end of the gusset--not a problem if your wrists get cold but unnecessary if you have good layering on your upper body from your coat, and so it makes the cuff unnecessarily bulky

These are fabulous gloves but NOT for wet ski conditions. The name gives it away, ONLY buy these gloves if you are skiing powder. Otherwise they leak like a sieve and within 30 minutes your hands are soaked through the liner and you can ring them out.